Curse

l Heroz l · Jan 11, 2009, 05:29 PM // 17:29

So heres some backround info:
Warrior/Ranger
Pet User
Prophecies & Eotn
Sword Guy

So ya, pls help Id like an awesome PvE build, make sure it includes charm animal,make sure the skills are accessible from Prophecies or Eotn,make sure the skills are NOT for axes or hammers.

Yes, Id like pickles with that.

Thanks in advance

PS: If you could, tell me where to get the skills, that would really help

ac1inferno · Jan 11, 2009, 06:11 PM // 18:11

[build prof=w/r str=10+1 sword=12+1+1 beast=8][optional][battle rage][sever artery][gash][Body Blow][comfort animal][charm animal][resurrection signet][/build]

Namiren · Jan 11, 2009, 06:25 PM // 18:25

Here is the template of the build: OQIjQxRpVS9FTNGGXFNFGHbGCAA

And it looks like:

[W/R;OQIjQxRpVS9FTNGGXFNFGHbGCAA]

Abedeus · Jan 11, 2009, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Namier - you do know your build is like... 5 times worse than inferno's? You have a 10 second 25 IAS, wow. You would be better off using Frenzy.

Why do you want to use pet so badly? I would understand if you had Nightfall for [Never Rampage Alone], but other than that, pets suck in PvE. The only place they are (were) good is Tombs, because of the Barrage/Pet Rangers, but it was fixed by making pets leave non-exploitable corpses.

zwei2stein · Jan 11, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Take any decent-ish sword warrior build, remove two skills and put there charm&comfort, something like ac1inferno posted.

If you want build which is good because it has pet, stop looking, you wont find it. There is no warrior working build that benefits from having pet anymore, and those that worked in part were pet-death abusing gimmicks.

If you had Nightfall, you could use [Strike As One] (wrong description here, clickie) + [Gash] as basis of "fun" build.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 11, 2009, 09:37 PM // 21:37

I'm feeling nice today so I'll quote from the sticky:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me, in the sticky

There are two main rules for how you use your secondary profession.

1) Your primary is primary and your secondary is secondary. Primary is the most important and secondary supports that. If that isn’t clear, just remember that no matter what your secondary profession is, you are still a Warrior, and your job is still to rip stuff apart in melee. Sounds basic, but many Warriors fail to uphold that.

2) Your choice of secondary skills should be in regards to what you cannot do. Everything your primary can do, you can do better with your primary than your secondary. Basic things Warriors can't do are remove hexes and conditions (this is the Monk's job, however), and have a reusable resurrection skill. If the reusable rez isn't required utility skills such as damage buffs are taken.

So basically taking a pet just screws over your damage and/or your utility. If you still want one, just replace some of the utility.

ac1inferno · Jan 12, 2009, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Why do you want to use pet so badly? I would understand if you had Nightfall for [Never Rampage Alone], but other than that, pets suck in PvE.

The optional slot for the build I posted is actually for that. But since the OP didn't have Nightfall, I took it out and didn't know what else to replace it with. If he did have Nightfall, it would also be better to replace [[Body Blow] for [[Whirlwind Attack].

nebuchanezzar · Jan 12, 2009, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Kinda like Marty said, take any sword build, throw out the utility, make it /R and replace them with Charm and Comfort. With EotN you have [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill] and [skill]Battle Rage[/skill] both available.
The pet is cool for storyline type of feel but like others have said, that's all the good it does. You have spec pretty strongly in Beast Mastery for it to do any damage. Thankfully pve is very forgiving so try some options. Would recommend a [skill]Barbs[/skill] somewhere on the team =].
GL&HF

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 12, 2009, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Even if he has EotN he won't be able to use DSlash -> It's still a factions skill, so he still needs factions to use it.

Age · Jan 12, 2009, 10:01 PM // 22:01

When I see Warriors with pets as a Monk I do this /resign as it is your jop to do mass amounts of damage and pets don't do as much.

_Nihilist_ · Jan 13, 2009, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Even if he has EotN he won't be able to use DSlash -> It's still a factions skill, so he still needs factions to use it.

sort of pwns the next partial post from earlier in the thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namiren

[Sun and Moon Slash]

Marty has the best suggestion... drop one of your utility slots and bring Charm Animal. If anything, go with a 12+1+1 Weapon, 9+1 Strength, 9 Beast Mastery for best effect while using a Shield. If you don't rank your Beast Mastery, your pet won't do enough damage to make it worth taking along, much less sacrificing better utility to do so.

There's a reason Thumpers are R/W, let them mess with pets and Warrior weapons...

Abedeus · Jan 13, 2009, 11:10 AM // 11:10

Quote:

There's a reason Thumpers are R/W, let them mess with pets and Warrior weapons...

Because first [Ferocious Strike] and then [Rampage as One] were far superior in terms of imba knockdowns + deepwound + dazed.

Warriors + hammers = balanced teams. One warrior knockdowns Infuse, the rest of the team pwns the other monk.

bungusmaximus · Jan 13, 2009, 12:14 PM // 12:14

Pets aren't bad in PvE, but they just belong to rangers, warrior with pet is pretty godawful.

When you play BHA ranger bringing a pet is pretty gewd for obvious reasons.

_Nihilist_ · Jan 14, 2009, 12:19 AM // 00:19

@Abedeus: yup

@bungusmaximus: yup

Hugh Manatee · Jan 15, 2009, 06:27 PM // 18:27

I'm gonna get a White Crab.... Level it up.... Name it Fire Crotch.... cant decide if it should be dire fire crotch, elder fire crotch or hearty fire crotch....

Like they say above, all the fun W/R stuff for PvE is in Nightfall: Never Rampage Alone, Barbarous Slice, Knee Cutter, Strike as One, ect. I've been running a W/R and R/W black moa death squad to fill a NM storybook, they're pretty good damage sponges and walls, and with that many you can take comfort off yourself and have 1 guy take revive animal.

I recall Ferocious Strike not entirely sucking because it gave adrenaline and energy, and way back then you didn't have all the cool sword elites so in PvE you could run whatever on top of your sword bar(Back Breaker, Evis and earth shaker rocked). Just a basic Sever>Gash>final thust/galrath slash combo, Ferocious, the pet support(charm/comfort), an IAS, a res or another skill. With EotN you take out Final Thrust for your favorite melee oriented pve skill like club of a thousand bears, brawling headbut, or something. The IAS could be drunken master if you can fuel it and By Uriel's Hammer, asran scan, finish him, light of deldrimore or whatever in your last slot.

You're going to be H&Hing a lot though....

Eddie Frenzy Spam · Jan 21, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Because first [Ferocious Strike] and then [Rampage as One] were far superior in terms of imba knockdowns + deepwound + dazed.

Warriors + hammers = balanced teams. One warrior knockdowns Infuse, the rest of the team pwns the other monk.

It's actually a lot more effective to knock lock the prot while your team spikes the infuse.

qvtkc · Jan 23, 2009, 01:07 PM // 13:07

I feel so sad for OP, he had a build idea but didn't know how to tie it together, and he just wanted some help.

OP try these. They are not the most efficient builds in the world, but they will work, they follow your build concent, and they don't use fail elites.

template
[hundred blades][sever artery][gash][optional][optional][charm animal][comfort animal][resurrection signet]

To fill in the blanks:
[berserker stance][rush] (yeah I know it's not the best IAS

)
or
[galrath slash][drunken master]
or
[asuran scan][drunken master]

gunster · Jan 23, 2009, 10:25 PM // 22:25

The only reason i can think of for ever using a pet on war in PvE:

show off a rainbow phoenix XD

but as to OP...drop off utilities and add Charm Animal and u'll be fine

Age · Jan 23, 2009, 10:28 PM // 22:28

The only Ranger skills a Warrior should use are apply poison and antidote signet.

Lyynyyrd · Jan 23, 2009, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by age

the only ranger skills a warrior should use are apply poison and antidote signet.

warriors shouldn't use apply poison